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Rise and Fall of General Mladic (2005) - 45 min

"Rise and Fall of General Mladic" paints a picture of a contradictory personality of the first man of the Serb army during the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. He is in hiding now, avoiding arrest and surrender to the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, where he faces charges of genocide and crimes against humanity.

The film re-examines the myth of Ratko Mladic as a soldier, leader, hero, an extraordinary man – a myth that has come into being as an instrument of political propaganda. Widely accepted and unquestioned at the beginning, it is now being kept alive mostly in the circles of defeated adherents of the military and national project designed to encompass all Serbs in a single state. The myth has been shaken by recent disclosures about the nature and scale of the crimes, public admissions of guilt and condemnations of indiscriminate shelling of Sarajevo and mass murder of civilians in Srebrenica. This has dispelled many doubts whether those things actually happened and whether Mladic indeed was the man behind them. Members of his General Staff are already in The Hague. He is the only man missing: he is ten years late.

He was a general of two armies at the same time: Yugoslav and Bosnian Serb. This fact is curious enough in itself, but it raises the issue of a conflict of interest, which might in fact be ongoing. This is another issue addressed by the film through the story of Mladic`s origins and his climb up the career ladder in the military service.

The film presents a comprehensive and systematic picture of Ratko Mladic, recording various opinions of the man and the changes he has been through. It is there to give food for thought to all viewers with an interest in the subject, regardless of their beliefs and sympathies.

Transcript

RATKO MLADIC
This is not just scything but the survival of the Serb people. We don`t care if we`ll be recognised or not. When we recognise ourselves, the whole world will see us as a hard-working people…
Sharpen it and continue up to that tree. That`s right. We should be getting ready for winter.


AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
I know that all the female journalists were interested in him as women; he`s obviously a handsome man. Isidora Bjelica says he`s the most desirable man in the Balkans.

MLADIC
I don`t smoke…

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
He asked the military inspectors to go to a classroom and gave them some papers. Gruevski asked, "What’s this?". He says, "A test." "What test?" "To see how much you know about the battalion." It was a huge scandal, Gruevski asked for an explanation. Ratko said, "For me, the command is sacrosanct, I respect the inspectors, but I assume many of them don`t know anything about the battalion. The last batch surely didn’t, so I`d like to check if these know anything." The group left. Gruevski went to Corps Commander Lambe Mihaelovski and told him what happened. Lambe knew something about those inspections and said to Gruevski:
“If you go on sending ignorant inspectors around like that, there`ll be other officers, not as crazy as this guy, what`s his name?" "Ratko Mladic" "Right, and they`ll chase you out of their units, too."

RATKO MLADIC
You must be an Englishman because you don’t think as much as you should. If you were a Serb… Oh, CNN… this is the first assistance I have received from CNN.


WARRIOR

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
Ratko Mladic was very good at solving tactical and operational situations, but could not see the strategic impact of his actions. It all ended up in a general military and political defeat.

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
We know that Mladic`s military, strategic and defensive abilities are highly respected in America and in Russia.

JOVAN DIVJAK
No way was he a good commander.

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
I sometimes fear that they abducted him to use him against his will, because nowadays it’s possible to extract data from a human brain electronically.

JOVAN DIVJAK
I think he failed as a commander and was unable to use the military hardware he had.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
He simply turned a regular army into a disorganised armed group, increasingly losing its shape, while his opponents managed to transform makeshift units into proper ones, which led to this outcome of the war.

JOVAN DIVJAK
Kukanjac said: “I handed the borders of Republika Srpska to him and he lost them." Also take into account that 250,000 people were killed in BH - those were civilians, unprotected people.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
The entire system came loose after Bihac and the entire concept, already utopian, was defeated. It was created in the minds of irresponsible people, unable to realise even their worst ideas.

JOVAN DIVJAK
When we now try to explain his role as a soldier who respected the laws and conventions, we see that he never abided by them. Neither did his soldiers. With one massacre after another, you cannot speak of humane conduct of war.


SARAJEVO

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
Sarajevo has a special place on his CV. It`s a huge black stain. For months, he ordered fire on an unprotected city – because no one could return his fire.

JOVAN DIVJAK
During the war, we found an artillery logbook listing some 2,600 targets in Sarajevo with all the coordinates. He had the ability to target any building in the city.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
By besieging the city, he believed that he`d tie up several BH Army corps, thus preventing them from reaching the front line that was 1,600 km long. The RS military had held the line as it slowly disintegrated.

JOVAN DIVJAK
He had to bring in people from the JNA or the FRY army because he didn`t have enough soldiers. It was not just because Belgrade wanted to help.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
He once said he was saving Sarajevo as the best for last. But it was just rhetoric. As the war drew to a close, there was less and less chance of taking Sarajevo. It would have been a fatal battle for a large city, with many casualties due to street fighting.

JOVAN DIVJAK
If they had entered Sarajevo in the first week or month, Europe would have said, "This is a problem of those tribes, it`s neither war nor aggression."

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
At that time he tried to become the master of Sarajevo, in his pathological way, because in the past he was not accepted by Sarajevo as a figure of any significance.

JOVAN DIVJAK
His artillery incircled the city in a 65 km ring. See those cemeteries? This was done in the fight between those who had the firepower and those who just defended themselves. The city was defending itself.


THE NEGOTIATOR

RATKO MLADIC
Serbs never accepted ultimatums; they will not do so in the future.

JOVAN DIVJAK
When the talks began – his artillery had to be withdrawn to 20 km from Srebrenica – he protested, went out for half an hour, refused to talk, then came back. He looked like the one holding the strings, like a good chess player who had the advantage, toying with the weaker party. He said: "I refuse to speak to the Muslim delegation that includes a traitor to the Serb people, the man who ordered that Serbs be fired upon", but did not mention my name.

RATKO MLADIC
Gen. Morillon offered us today a good plan that might be a basis for the solution in Sarajevo and around the airport. Unfortunately, the Muslim party did not show up and we dealt with other issues with Maj. Gen. Petkovic and Gen. Morillon.

JOVAN DIVJAK
Of course he acted in accordance with his nature. He`s from those villages near Nevesinje and Gacko. He acted arrogantly. He would attend negotiations wearing a crude sheepskin jacket.


BOZANOVICI

ZIJO JUSUFOVIC
If you want to go up there, rest assured, you`ve been spotted.

VILLAGE WOMAN
The village there, Bozanovici, that’s where she lived, but she left 20, 30 years ago. Careful, the cow might splatter over you.

REPORTER
It`s OK. Mandic was her maiden name?

VILLAGE WOMAN
No, it was Lalovic. She lived there with her sons 30, 40 years ago. Then she left with Ratko and with the late Milivoj.

SHOP ASSISTANT
You can go left, or straight, about a kilometre or two, you`ll see, just keep left.

JUSUFOVIC
When I go back, is it to the right or to the left?

VILLAGER
Down towards the stream. I’d rather not be interviewed.

ZIJO JUSUFOVIC
This is the forgotten village where the villagers don`t really like to talk about themselves or about Ratko Mladic.
30 years ago his family left this house.
People born here carry a piece of their village within themselves and it shows.


EARLY WORKS

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
When the clashes began in Knin, he was deputy commander of the JNA Pristina Corps, in charge of logistics. In Knin, he had to separate the warring factions. The people there, especially Serbs, did not like this. For them, the JNA was the opponent.

VOICE OVER PA
Knin Corps representatives headed by Maj. Gen. Ratko Mladic.

MILAN MARTIC
Glory to the fighters fallen for our Krajina!

TROOPS
Glory.

ZELJKO RAZNATOVIC ARKAN
Against the Ustashas, the uprising against their daggers, to defend the Serb people not only in Krajina but throughout our blood-soaked Serbian land! This has never been Croatia! The Serb people paid for this land in blood!


THE SERBIAN ARMY

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
At the same time, the new Bosnian Serb government appointed him Chief of Staff. From the old JNA position of ‘brotherhood and unity’ Mladic now had to defend the Serb people against those who were, until recently, their brothers. The division of command between the President of the Republic and Mladic was troublesome. Radovan is a bohemian. A poet. He`s always been a bohemian, poet and politician. Ratko Mladic is an inveterate soldier. Perfectly disciplined. One of the episodes where they were different, but acted together, was in rejecting the Vance-Owen plan. Radovan was ready to accept it if the Assembly did. Mladic told the Assembly why the plan could not be accepted, demonstrating it on a map.

RATKO MLADIC
I would like to present my views of the matter, on behalf of the Main Staff and the RS Army. I ask for your patience, it may take about 20 minutes.

KRAJISNIK
I have to cut it short, General, there will be guests who will speak longer.

MLADIC
OK. I`ll cut it short.

KRAJISNIK
The General will cut it down to 19 minutes. I agree.

RATKO MLADIC
Gentlemen, I`d like to show you a map.

This is the result of the war imposed on the Serb people. This is the result of our leadership, people and army. Put the transparency on. I will explain everything later, Mr. Speaker.

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
I say their greatest success is sticking it out together for 5 years - two Serbs of their kind not killing each other. Because that`s the Serbian way. That’s Serbian.


A GENERAL OF THE TRADITIONAL ORDER

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
He was reproached for his reluctance to become a part of that traditional Serb army. There was a strong desire among Bosnian Serbs to set up a kind of a Chetnik army, in the old fashion, to wear the Chetnik insignia. Radovan naturally wanted that in order to rehabilitate his father. Mladic, on the other hand, resisted that - he did not want to wear Chetnik insignia. He said this had to be a people`s army, that the old inter-Serb conflicts should not be revived.

RATKO MLADIC
Come on, son, take the troops and let`s move forward! There should be as little equipment and personnel here as possible. Get to work, Serbs!

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
But he gradually started to believe, as many around him made him believe, that he was special, a hero bound to outshine all Serb knights with his glory. The results are the funny hats that signified a derogation of the national uniform and the promotion of their own heads, which became a sort of folkloric resting place for those hats.

RATKO MLADIC – MANOJLO MILOVANOVIC
Same old guy, same old guy.
Don’t fuck with me.
I`m serious.
What`s happening, where is he?
I`m here. You know why I`m here.
Turn the camera on him; he won`t let me go to the frontline.
Well, sure.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
Out of this, came a Copernican shift in Ratko Mladic`s head that probably produced the philosophy of crime and the endeavour to kill each other as brutally as possible. Surrounding oneself with hatred and the sowing of death became the most romantic and patriotic ideal. .

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
He was three when the Ustashas killed his father. This was after the war, in 1945, 1946. There were many Chetniks in his village, but in BH there was no strict distinction between Chetniks and Partisans. Ratko says, “We had a cow that fed us throughout the war.” One day, Chetniks took his mother into the barn, tied one of her braids to the cow`s horn, the other to the pole to which the cow was tied, and set the barn on fire. She was saved by neighbours who put out the fire. Ratko told me, "How could I wear the Chetnik insignia then?"


THE BELIEVER

ZELJKO KOPANJA
I think this effort to turn Mladic and Karadzic into a myth is definitely on the way out. It failed. The Serbian Orthodox Church is changing its tune. Grigorije, Bishop of Zahum and Herzegovina has recently urged Karadzic and Mladic to surrender. As he put it so nicely, "The heads of Karadzic and Mladic are not worth more than the young Serb heads that fell in this war."


ANA

DR ZORAN STANKOVIC
He was at Han Pijesak, at the HQ. At around 4:30 he jumped up and told the duty officer something terrible had happened. His wife called him then and told him the sad news that Ana was dead. Ana was very smart, ambitious, beautiful. She was very much like him in many ways. In view of his position at the time, we concealed the body and didn’t tell anyone. He told me, "Cut her hair, I want to keep it for the rest of my life," and I gave him the hair. I gave him the bullet I had taken out of his daughter`s head. My techs dressed her dead body. He put make up on her face. After that, we`ve had the special relationship that I always have with people whose family members I`ve autopsied.

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
Ratko then told me he suspected a certain man. He said, "You know him, I won`t name him." He doubts that Ana would have decided to kill herself with that pistol – he got it as an award at the Military Academy. Once at the family lunch, he said, "I`ll fire this pistol when new Mladics are born." Ana, who was very close to her father, said, "I won`t change my last name then. When I get a son, you`ll fire this pistol." He thinks Ana would not kill herself with that pistol.

ZORAN STANKOVIC
I made a mistake last time I visited him at home. I said, "I came to see you because I saw that Ana`s grave was untended." That hurt him. He didn’t reply, but said, "Doctor, do you realise I`m a hunted man?"

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
I also think that his personal tragedy, the death of his daughter, made him less sensitive to the plight of the people who were his enemies. Regardless of his abilities and the balance of power in the field, he was a man who took for himself the right to make life and death decisions about others.
ARROGANCE

RATKO MLADIC
Start forming the column. Let`s go, lads!
Don’t let me hear you speak again! Get out of here; you`ve made a fool of yourself! Don`t you dare speak, soldier. Who do you think you are?

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
Ratko Mladic was one of the few who dared oppose Slobodan Milosevic in a very rude way. I personally witnessed that once. I think that the context was Srebrenica, although the conversation gave no clues, because this was a rough quarrel. Milosevic asked for the operations centre to put him through to Mladic.

RATKO MLADIC
Take any associate you want and one woman.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
When he was put through, Milosevic started yelling at Mladic angrily, threatening him with execution, without saying why. We knew why. This was about the preparations for the Srebrenica attack. Mladic responded very rudely, "Don’t shout at me, I`m not your wife; if you ever dare to raise your voice with her!" And he hung up.

RATKO MLADIC
Did you understand me? Roger.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
I got through to Manojlo Milovanovic, his deputy, twice. I asked him where Ratko was. He said, "Ratko`s here. Who wants him?" I explained that Milosevic wanted him. Manojlo said, “If he wants him, he`ll probably find him.” Ratko got in touch with me at around 3:30 a.m. I said, "Rale, he`s been bugging us all night to find you, what do we tell him?" He says, "Go fuck yourselves, all of you – him too."

DR ZORAN STANKOVIC
I don’t think he considered himself a Bosnian Napoleon. He was aware of his military strength. Both the international and local military experts admitted he was an excellent strategist and officer. That adulation is something you grow accustomed to, but you must distance yourself from it, regardless of what would you like to believe. You must control yourself much better than before.

RATKO MLADIC
Sir, don’t beat about the bush, but give me a straight answer. Did you, Lt. Col, order your troops to fire on mine? You, sir, had to disarm the Muslims in Srebrenica according to the agreement of April and May 1993. Yet you armed them, smuggled things together with them and prepared them to fight the Serbs.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
He said many times, "I am the Almighty for you. Whatever I tell you is how it`s gonna be."

RATKO MLADIC
I`m not surprised by NATO air strikes or by the fact that the UN authorised them. The UN is responsible for all the Serb losses in this war because they made the crimes against the Serb people possible by tearing up the former Yugoslavia. Unfortunately, this was the third time in this century.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
He thought his charisma and reputation were greater than they actually were. He wanted to control the army in way that led not only to operational failures and the collapse of certain units, but also created an atmosphere that gave way to crimes.

RATKO MLADIC
I know General Rose and I respect him. He`s a young general, with great potential, excellent education, experienced, aggressive. I know about his success in the Falklands. He has just as much right to control my weapons, as I did over his in the Falklands. We don`t want foreign weapons to defend out people, our land. This is our fundamental right.

RATKO MLADIC
I`m through. You may go. I expect you tomorrow at 10.


A DARLING OF THE MASSES

DR ZORAN STANKOVIC
Mladic had a huge influence on the masses; he could stir them up because he was one of the few high-ranking officers who actually fought on the frontline, because he cared about his troops, the people and all the other things that an ideal soldier would care about.

RATKO MLADIC
Let me tell you what I must say; I can`t tell everything now. Although this rebellion of some units has prompted both protests and support among the people, the enemy had most reason to rejoice. We must gain new strength from it. We can`t do this to ourselves.

Don`t interrupt, please. If you are more of a patriot than me, you can speak when I`m gone. I didn’t come here for my own sake, but for all of us. I can`t have a shouting match with you. I`m tired.

I am asking you to show confidence in our leadership.

DR ZORAN STANKOVIC
At first the masses had no effect on Mladic. Later on it had, unfortunately. This is the consequence of what happened later. That`s a characteristic of those people, they can`t accept criticism and then they get rid of those who criticise or point to improper conduct. They can end up in a bad way.

RATKO MLADIC
Mr. President, the RS Army is implementing your words from the last session of the Assembly that Serbs should join the ranks of Work and Combat Brigades. I`m here with the gentlemen from this region, our good lads, soldiers, workers. I want our Republika Srpska and the Serb people to flourish in a unified territory, that we all join the ranks, vanquish this evil time, endure the tempest, sail between the Scylla and the Charybdis and realise our dreams of all Serbs living in a single state.


MASTER OF LIFE AND DEATH

RATKO MLADIC
War has been declared on us. I told the UN high representative that this should be taken into account. When there is a declaration of war on the Serb people and others, it is hard to talk about peace. I think that now the anti-Serbian coalition should dissolve before we can speak about peace.

MARK HARMON
The take-over of Srebrenica darkly mirrored all that had preceded it.

RATKO MLADIC
You can all get out, all stay, or all die. I don’t want you to die.

MARK HARMON
The following morning, General Mladic and Colonel Karremans met a third time in Bratunac.

RATKO MLADIC
You have my word as a man and a general; I will use my influence to help the innocent Muslims who are not the targets of the Republika Srpska Army. You too hold the fate of your people in your hands. Not only here.

MARK HARMON
General Mladic repeated his previous demands and told the Bosnian Muslim representatives who were present that nobody would be hurt and that there was no reason to be afraid or to panic because he always kept his word.

RATKO MLADIC
I said yesterday, “You can survive or disappear.” If you want to survive, I ask that all your men carrying arms surrender them to the Republika Srpska forces. Even those who committed crimes against the Serb people, as many did.

MARK HARMON
Bosnian-Serb Army soldiers dressed in stolen UN uniforms or driving stolen and clearly marked UN vehicles.

RATKO MLADIC
Show this, how we are rescuing UNPROFOR. You put this on…

MARK HARMON
For his assault, General Mladic amassed a force of approximately 3,000 heavily armed soldiers equipped with the best war materiel and equipment in the Bosnian-Serb arsenal, including tanks, multiple-rocket launchers, heavy artillery and mounted anti-aircraft guns. The invasion of the enclave advanced quickly with General Mladic`s forces attacking and overrunning the UN observation posts that ringed the enclave, thereby effectively blinding the UN peacekeeping operation.

RATKO MLADIC
Check that building, enter with caution. Take off this street sign, Selmanagic Reuf Crni. Take that off. Get up there! Don’t let me tell you twice. Take that with you. To Bratunac. No saluting. Trivic, skip the history, please, let`s get to Bratunac. Skip the history, move!

MARK HARMON
In hours of that meeting general Mladic and Bosnian Serb army arrived in Potocari. Muslim man were separated from their family and taken to various locations out of sight of UN peacekeepers.

RATKO MLADIC
This is done on my orders. I`m not interested in your commander.

Please be patient. Those who wish to stay can do so. Those who want to leave can do so. We have enough buses and trucks. You will be taken to Kladanj.

HARMON
Many were lured from the woods by the entreaties of their fellow Muslims who had been captured and who, at gunpoint, urged them to surrender. The others were not so fortunate. They were captured and surrendered by Serbian Army by thousands. Within three days of July 11th to July 13th the entire Muslim population of the enclave had either fled, been deported or been killed. Bosnian Serb soldiers summarily executed them, while General Mladic strutted in the area falsely reassuring the refugees that nothing would happen to them. It is hard to imagine a more callous and calculated deception.

DR ZORAN STANKOVIC
I can`t and don’t want to judge his actions. I can judge mine, though. If I was at the helm of an institution or a team that did something, as the leader I`m responsible for the work of that institution or team.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
He is definitely responsible for Srebrenica, regardless of what the court will find. He is responsible for failure to act and for the atmosphere of lynching and the huge number of deaths there.

SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC
Do you believe that Mladic knew someone had killed those men as he had been negotiating with you?

RUPERT SMITH
Yes.

SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC
Could you assume that military honour would permit General Mladic to tolerate the killing of POWs or civilians or some other dishonourable act?

RUPERT SMITH
Yes.


THE DEFEAT

RATKO MLADIC
Firstly, I don’t think there will be a military intervention. There`s no reason for it, we are clearly committed to a political solution, not to war. There`s no need for it, because we don`t have any soldiers deployed in the territories and states of the parties that would intervene. We don`t have any military or other aspirations there.

REPORTER
What if the planes take off from Italy?

RATKO MLADIC
We`ll see about that. They fly now, but only on reconnaissance, in accordance with the Security Council Resolution.

REPORTER
If they change…

RATKO MLADIC
What if… I`m not a fortune-teller to tell you what would happen ‘if’. If we are attacked, we`ll defend ourselves with every means, just as we have against the Croat-Muslim coalition.

NATO - BRIEFING
The first one here is on the command and control communication known as Jahorina, F16 aircraft and you will see from the pictures; you have a number of antennae and buildings clearly on top of the hill. The target being one with the cross at the centre, the nearest to those antennae. You will see in the moment the bomb is coming from the right hand side. It is the 1,000 pound laser guided bombs. And we consider that destroyed.

RATKO MLADIC
We should take him down.

This is an American bomb, an airborne bomb. It probably has some supports, nozzles. See, it`s grooved on the inside.

RATKO MLADIC
The bombs that hit our children demystified the West and opened the eyes of those Serbs who used their asses, not their heads, to think. From day one it was clear to me who caused all this, who planned and ran this war. War can`t stop because the gods of war are not here, but in the centres of power in the West. That`s why it`ll go on until their children start going back in body bags.

RATKO MLADIC
I can say that the NATO bombs and US bombers and Phantoms bolstered the morale of Serb soldiers. Every Serb soldier now knows his enemy, now and in the future. Only by moving forward do we reach the skies and glory.


AN IDEOLOGICAL ARMY

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
I think that Ratko Mladic lived - maybe for too long - in a bi-polar world. When the blocs collapsed, he simply couldn`t understand what really happened here.

RATKO MLADIC
I don’t know whom Holland could attack on its own. I don’t think it could attack even Denmark.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
At first he believed NATO would break up soon, that the Allies were inept.

RATKO MLADIC
This war is absurd. I don’t know whether the artists could express it better than we soldiers can, when you have Holland dropping bombs on some nations, like it dropped them on Serbs, all on American orders.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
I think that militarily and politically Mladic never got past the misconception and intelligence stereotype about the Yalta spirit in the Balkans.

RATKO MLADIC
It’s not only the Dutch planes that took part. This miserable Dutchman Van den Broek caused a lot of bad things and contributed to the break-up of the former Yugoslavia.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
I think Milosevic shared that view. Milosevic was his political and philosophical guru despite their disagreements about many things.

RATKO MLADIC
Perhaps that gentleman will be embarrassed because I`m singling him out. He`s still powerful in the EC.

LJUBODRAG STOJADINOVIC
Officers of the former Yugoslav army trusted more in what they considered eternal truths than in information they received. Ratko Mladic remained the child of an ideological army. The narrow consciousness that is the product of ideology affected his views of the alliance in war. Even when there was no notion of an alliance, Serbs believed themselves to be able to accomplish any task in any war: if we`re attacked, we`ll defend ourselves. No one wondered what would happen if nobody attacked us but if we broke down from the inside. Ratko Mladic, like all ideology-driven officers firmly believed in some kind of endemic alliance between the Soviet Union or Russia, and Serbia – despite that history proved they never helped us.

RATKO MLADIC
It`s true that peace was signed in Dayton, but those who dabbled in semantics struggle to implement it. It`s hard to grasp that those who recently dropped bombs and cruise missiles on us could now expect that the Serb mothers in mourning will think differently only because a military paper has legalised the occupation of this area,


SHELTER

RATKO MLADIC
They want to tie our generals up and take them to The Hague, and let their generals walk around here, handing out posters and propaganda to our children.

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
When we speak about Mladic, I feel this terrible pain...

RATKO MLADIC
It should be defined as one of the modern follies of 20th century civilisation.

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
For the fact that he didn`t speak about himself more...

RATKO MLADIC
I can be tried by my own people.

LJILJANA BULATOVIC
To leave a true impression of himself, for not being able to speak now, first of all because his mother made him swear the oath that no one ever defeated silence.

DR ZORAN STANKOVIC
Some people wanted me to take part in the efforts to catch or locate him. I must be very clear: I don’t know where General Mladic has been since 1999. I keep hearing various rumours, but I could never take part in that.

I don’t think General Mladic will surrender alive. I think that`s his final decision. He will not surrender to the ICTY nor to anyone else. Any attempt to arrest him will probably result in his death.


EPILOGUE

DRAGAN CAVIC
Participants in this crime cannot justify their acts before anyone, in any way. Any one who committed such a crime in the name of his people committed a crime against his own people. Any one who invoked God as he committed such a crime, expecting the Almighty to give him His blessing, committed a crime against the God he believes in. Any one who committed such a crime as an act of vengeance took vengeance on his own people.


SENSE Production, 2005

Produced and Written by
Mirko Klarin

Production Manager
Violeta Willemsen-Curcic

Edited by
Aleksandar Stenojevic

Directed by
Lazar Stojanovic


SPEAKERS:

Ljiljana Bulatovic
publicist

Ljubodrag Stojadinovic
military analyst

Jovan Divjak
BH Army General

Dr. Zoran Stankovic
forensic pathologist

Zijo Jusufovic
tourist guide

Rupert Smith
former UNPROFOR commander

Mark Harmon
ICTY prosecutor

Zeljko Kopanja
journalist

Dragan Cavic
President of Republika Srpska

Cases

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